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Finding my own way…

Oh, Newt… You Nut!


Latest ramblings from our friend Newt Gingrich are so far from right, they are laughable.  Although, they’re not laughable, becuase this is how many politicians and voters from the religious right feel.  Here is what he said:

“I think this is one of the most critical moments in American history,” Mr. Gingrich said in a speech broadcast live over God TV, an evangelical Web site. “We are living in a period where we are surrounded by paganism.”

As I laid out in detail, this country was NOT founded on Christianity.  It wasn’t, never has been.  Why people must insist on twisting the truth is beyond me.  The forefathers would turn in their grave today if they saw how much religion has infiltrated our Government and laws.  It would sicken them, because this is the very thing they were leaving behind and faught a war to gain freedom from.


June 9, 2009 Posted by | Politics and Religion, Religious Right | , , | Leave a comment

According To The Bible – I May Not Be A Good Wife

I’m a wife, not a mother.  I may never be a mother, by choice.  If I read the Bible, and believe it, I’m nothing more than a maid, and child birthing vessel.  So. Awesome.  It even says it in a way that should feel like a promotion… ‘leader of the home.’  But, then I look closer, and find out that the man is the ‘leader of his wife.’  Even. more. awesomeness.

Am I glad that I never let that viewpoint hold me back.  Even deep in my Christian faith, I didn’t think this could possibly be correct.  Perhaps this was the beginning of my questioning… as I got older, I couldn’t make it line up.  I wanted to go to college, have a career, maybe or maybe not get married, maybe (but probably not) have kids.  I didn’t want any of the things that the Bible said women were put here to do.

Some churches skirt past this topic, but it is all over the Bible, and it is very clear.  If one believes the Bible is perfect, and God’s actual words, then this same person, whether they like it or not, believes what I stated in the first paragraph.

“Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is appropriate for those who belong to the Lord.” – Colossians 3:18

“Encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.” – Titus 2:4-5

“get married, bear children, keep house.”- 1 Timothy 5:14

June 9, 2009 Posted by | Christianity, Religious Right, Woman | , , | 3 Comments

Pastor McKissic – Southern Baptist Who is Speaking Out

I was led to an article on the Associated Baptist Press site, where Pastor McKissic, Southern Baptist Pastor at Cornerstone Baptist Church in Arlington, Texas, speaks out against a former Southern Baptist Convention officer.

From the article:

Drake, a white man elected to the same office 10 years later, said June 2 on “The Alan Colmes Show” that unless Obama repents, he is praying that God will kill the president. Drake said he believes that is what happened to slain abortion provider George Tiller, who was shot to death while attending church in Wichita, Kan., on Sunday, May 31.

As a follow-up to the radio show, Drake had this to say:

“I’ve been a Baptist pastor for a long time, been in the pro-life fight, been face-to-face with Tiller, told him about Jesus, and I’ve seen many, many others tell him about Jesus over and over and over again,” Drake said. “And I’ve seen horrific things that go on in those death abortuaries — and that’s what they are — and so my initial response to those people, they said, ‘Well what was your response,’ and I said, ‘Well, in all honesty I have to just respond directly and say I am glad that he’s dead.'”

Thankfully, a pastor who is part of the Southern Baptist community is speaking out:

McKissic, who is asking the SBC this year to adopt a resolution celebrating the election of the nation’s first African-American president, said if Drake was identified in the interview as a Southern Baptist, then his remarks should not go unchallenged.

McKissic, a former president of the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention pastors conference and speaker at the group’s evangelism conference, personally denounced Drake’s comments and said he would ask SBC president Johnny Hunt to do the same.

“They need to be repudiated by Southern Baptist leaders,” McKissic said.

Do you think the Secret Service should check this guy out, along with all of his followers who may actually take him seriously?  I personally think they should, and hope that they are.  Isn’t even mentioning something like this, especially in a public forum, enough to get investigated?

It is people like Drake, who are out there on large platforms, who only add to the hatred and violence created by such extreme views.  Who preach things like this, that turn into actions.  Just look at Dr. Tiller.

June 5, 2009 Posted by | Politics and Religion, Religious Right | , , , | 4 Comments

National Day Of Prayer – Didn’t Feel It


I didn’t pray to the ceiling today… and didn’t feel any difference in the world today. In fact, the main headline today using the search term, “Christian News” is about the killing of a doctor who performed abortions… while. at. church. Go figure… a Christian murdering an innocent person on the national day of prayer.

June 1, 2009 Posted by | Religious Right | 1 Comment

Green Day Says NO to Censorship

Thank god that someone (Green Day) is standing up to Walmart and their ridiculous policies against content they don’t like. Many bands re-cut their music for Walmart because they won’t carry music with fowl language or lude content (as defined by Walmart!). Why won’t Walmart carry this?? Because they cater to the ‘family friendly’ crowd, and religious right. They don’t want to lose these customers, so they won’t carry content that is considered objectionable by these groups.

Wonder if they carry the Bible? I bet they do. Wonder if they’ve ever read it and discovered there is content in there that is more lude and crude than many of the CD’s they are banning.

I say, hooray for Green Day! They are #1 on the charts, and I’m sure this ‘negative’ PR didn’t hurt them ONE BIT. I’d also be willing to bet that it DID help other retail and online outlets.

May 24, 2009 Posted by | Religious Right | Leave a comment

Marriage in America

I live in a state that has decided to add a constitutional amendment that bans same sex marriages. This same state is, by some, considered one of the more progressive states. This sickens me, especially the way with witch the campaign for the ‘Yes on 8’ was done. A group of people, not even in our state (yes, the Mormon Church) decided that it was worth millions of their dollars to ‘save marriage.’

I was a staunch believer that homosexuality was evil, a sin and would send a person straight to hell. I thought that people involved in a gay relationship couldn’t possibly be happy, and just needed more god and prayer. How wrong was I? So wrong that it embarrasses me when I even admit that I thought this way. I was taught to love the sinner, hate the sin. What does this even mean? It means… I hate everything you do, but I love you. Does. not. compute.

Now, I look at dear friends of mine, in gay relationships, who are so in love and have conquered more than a lot of married couples I know. I look at them and wonder why they can’t get married. Why they can’t have the same rights as every other human out there in the U.S. Why they are practically considered a different species by some. It truly saddens me, and I am still upset about how the vote went down in our state. I still hope that someone will see how unconstitutional this amendment is, and will knock some common sense into people by getting rid of it.

My view on homosexuality was one of the first things that changed in me. It changed before I even realized I was starting my de-conversion process. I had dear friends that had come out to me, and I couldn’t reconcile what I thought was true with the person sitting in front of me who was an amazing, caring and loving person. I knew that my viewpoint was wrong, immediately. It didn’t take much soul searching, it was just clear that I was wrong, and I quickly admitted it.

Anyway, back to where I was going… marriage in America needs to be changed to civil unions on the government side, and religious ceremonies on the personal side. Marriage, in the religious sense, never belonged in the government to begin with. Until the religious right can get their divorce/abusive marriages/unhappy marriages down to zero, I think they need to stay out of other people’s decisions about marriage. Period.

May 15, 2009 Posted by | Politics and Religion, Religious Right | , , | Leave a comment

Go to the Dance!

At least this kid is learning at a young age how to step outside the dogma that is part of the Conservative Christian Church.  This scene reminds me of a situation I went through in college.  I was told by my Christian leaders that I could not, under any circumstane leave the Bible Study I was leading, which also meant I was to stay in the dorm that I was trying to leave.  I was stupid enough to comply against my beter judgement.

I look back on that moment as one of the milestones in my deconversion.  I remember thinking long and hard about why I allowed people to dictate what I could and couldn’t do.  I had already started questioning a lot.  This episode was the icing on the cake, and now, over 15 years later, I look back and wish I had done what this kid did.  Exactly what HE wanted to do despite what others were telling him to do.

May 14, 2009 Posted by | Leaving Religion, Religious Right | , , | Leave a comment

A Heartbeat Away…

On Thursday we will see a VP debate that may go down as one of the most important VP debates ever. Usually these aren’t very important to people and the VP candidate has little affect on the outcome of the election. But, I believe that it is much different this time around.

Why? Because of the state of our country, because we are more dependent on foreign goods and economies than we ever have been. Because this election, no matter which way it goes will be historic. One big reason for the religious right is because Palin is all they have. McCain is not really religious, so Palin will make them feel less guilty when they vote in November.

Folks, even staunch Republicans are asking WTF. They are begging for her to step aside and use the excuse that family comes first. They see how bad a choice she is and are asking why.

What these people (staunch republicans who aren’t overly religious) don’t understand is that the religious right doesn’t care about competence (see ‘George Bush’) in the White House. No, they only care about how much they pray, tithe, and are committed to overturning laws that have no business in the government in the first place. Because of this, she will stay in the race, because… if the McCain advisors know one thing, they know they have no chance if they don’t have the suupprt of the religious right.

October 1, 2008 Posted by | Politics and Religion, Religious Right | , , | 1 Comment

Praying For Politics

I keep getting messages from people to pray for our presidential candidates. To pray that the right guy gets elected. To pray that whoever it is that God wants, be chosen by the voters.

These are the same people who send out e-mail telling me to vote for Mccain because Obama is horrible for the country and will continue us on the path towards being a godless nation.

Guess god has already told them who he wants. They are so lucky.

September 27, 2008 Posted by | Politics and Religion, Religious Right | , | Leave a comment

More Thoughts About Religion and Politics

So, in my earlier post I wrote a teaser about the separation of church and state. This is one thought that is part of an overarching thought, which is this:

I think that the men who wrote and signed the constitution not only knew a lot about what they wanted, but they knew even more about what they didn’t want. They had separated themselves from the oppression they were under in Britain, they knew that they DID NOT want religion to be tied to politics and were smart enough to write a constitution that gave everyone the right to be who they are.

For some reason, the Christian community has forgotten a few key elements of the constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. – First Amendment

I don’t understand what is so hard to understand here. In fact, our constitution is amazingly easy to understand. I think it’s funny that the Christian community clings so dearly to the founding fathers of this country as some staunch Christians who wanted this country to run on this religion. The fact is, they were so done with Government having a say in everything they did, including religion, they purposely wrote that religion is a freedom that Government should have no say in.

I think the blog, Accidental Historian really hits the nail on the head today with the following statement :

That’s why they want to write the Bible in to the Constitution. It’s why they want to re-make the image of the Founding Fathers in to the self-image of the fundamentalist Christian. At it’s core, according to the unspoken reasoning of the modern American fundamentalist church, the Constitution written by and for the people cannot and should not work.

Something I’ve always struggled with, even when I was heavily involved with the church, is this strong tie the churches seem to want with politics.  The Christian church will vote for someone just because they are Christian, because God is on their side.  The recent video floating around of Sarah Palin speaking at a Church just proves my point.  The Sr. Pastor says he prayed for her when she was running for Mayor and knew that God had big plans for her.  When she became Governor, they said that he had been prophetic back then.  This is just such craziness, I don’t even know where to start.  This is about as prophetic as me telling someone they will go on to do great things, and then when they work hard and make their way in the world I am told I’m a prophet.  Just ridiculous.

September 9, 2008 Posted by | Politics and Religion, Religious Right | , , | Leave a comment